I'm being facetious and overstating things for the sake of making a point, but it is a very serious problem. If we want to turn around the masculine crisis that Murrow documents so clearly in his book, we need to stop using the language Chan does in this book. It's not helping and it will only drive men further away from the church. I don't want to act like the book is all bad.
I applaud Chan's efforts to point out that grace is a starting point, not an ending point. But overall the book is riddled with problems. I understand why it's so popular, but I find the fact that it is so a little disheartening. If we want to turn the church around it is essential we fix our ecclesiology, stop eschewing intellectualism and stop driving away men.
Unfortunately, this book does the exact opposite of what is needed in those three areas. For all its admirable qualities, it ultimately does much more harm than good. View all 13 comments. Jul 25, Amy rated it liked it. I'm not a very good Christian these days - heck, I'm not even sure if I qualify as Christian, since I'm not big on evangelism - but I do believe that the way Christ lived is the way we should live - loving, giving, sacrificing, and with minimal possessions.
So I find myself wondering how there can be so many wealthy Christians in the world; doesn't hoarding and having so much when others have so little go against Christ's teachings? I'm glad to know now - after Chan's call to live "to the median I'm not a very good Christian these days - heck, I'm not even sure if I qualify as Christian, since I'm not big on evangelism - but I do believe that the way Christ lived is the way we should live - loving, giving, sacrificing, and with minimal possessions.
I'm glad to know now - after Chan's call to live "to the median" and trust God to provide - that I'm not the only one out there that thinks that. He's a pastor and he thinks it. Maybe I'm not such a heathen after all. This book is bound to get some people thinking about how much they have and how much they should be giving, which is a very good thing. The things I dislike about the book have more to do with what I dislike about Christianity in general and not the book or Chan himself. It's a worthwhile read for anyone who thinks there journey as a Christian is never complete and they can always sacrifice more shouldn't that be everyone?
View all 8 comments. Oct 30, Mason Wren rated it it was ok Shelves: christian-theology. This used to be a 5-star book for me. I've read it multiple times. I started a devotional study around this book before the group material and videos were ever released. It was extremely important and helpful for me during that time in my life. But as I have grown in my faith and understanding of God, I have seen many flaws in its theology and perspective and I don't believe it accurately portrays the heart of God, the father of the prodigal.
In my opinion, this book called crazy love falls shor This used to be a 5-star book for me. In my opinion, this book called crazy love falls short of capturing the God who not only loves, but is love, and who's every action is defined by love. Instead this book often uses fear, guilt, and shame to attempt to get people to love God back by doing what he requires us to do.
And if we don't do those things, this God will reject us and punish us forever Again, this book was really helpful for me at a more beginning developmental stage, but I don't believe it is the most accurate picture of the love of God and how that love transforms us and inspires us to our full potential of what we were created to be. Sep 08, Hope rated it it was amazing Shelves: to-reread-someday , reviewed , thought-provoking , non-fiction , reads. Because reading this book was a rather personal experience, I want this review to be personal. I love God. I love Jesus. The past few months have taught me anew that it is the biggest deal in the whole wide world and we should talk about it as much as we possibly can because it is a huge deal!
So let me tell you about this book, my friend. I have a whole pot of hot tea and no one but you to share it with. You probably noticed I stopped writing to you for a while…actually, I stopped writing at all. I stopped reading this book, too. It just seemed unimportant. I felt like it was telling me all these things I already knew…and it made me tired. Like the world was suddenly very big and empty and I was very lost in it.
And then that passed and I buried myself in a lot of things. Clothes, travel, work…for about a month. I replenished my wardrobe, I worked every day, I visited NYC for a week… And the world still was feeling rather empty, though a bit smaller than before. And I was still feeling mostly aimless in my existence. Stuff I already knew but had, I guess, sort of just forgotten about. Page to page I used to do many of the same things I do now, but I was motivated by guilt or fear of consequences.
When we work for Christ out of obligation, it feels like work. But when we truly love Christ, our work is a manifestation of that love, it feels like love. I would be happier. Instead, tell Him how you feel. Tell Him that you want Him to change you, that you long to genuinely enjoy Him.
Tell Him how you want to experience true satisfaction and pleasure and joy in your relationship with Him. Tell Him you want to love Him more than anything on this earth. Tell Him what you like about Him, what you appreciate, and what brings you joy. Why would I confess that to Him? All my life I have struggled to put Him first and failed to do so over and over, and yet I never thought of telling Him about that in my prayers. But I never thought to do that. Why would I? Or anyone else, for that matter! It made me reevaluate my life, in a good way, and for that I am so very thankful.
All I can say is that I recommend this book to everyone. I loved it very much and I intend to re-read it in the near future with a highlighter or a pencil nearby to mark my favorite parts, because there were many! Happy reading! And remember, live recklessly for HIM. View all 3 comments. Nov 07, Nick rated it it was ok Shelves: christian-living. This book has a huge fan base in the evangelical world.
So many of my personal friends have gone gaga over this book that I feel a little guilty busting it down to two stars. However, I have several reasons that I must do so. Is it because I'm a calloused Christian that isn't willing to be "overwhelmed by a relentless God"? It's that I'm not overwhelmed by this book I am really hard pressed to find any new material in this book. Recently there has been a wave of si This book has a huge fan base in the evangelical world. Recently there has been a wave of similar books calling for comfortable suburban Christians to get Radical about their faith and realize that there is a Hole In the Gospel well That covers several of them anyway.
I haven't read all of these books, so I will refrain from commenting on them and stick to Crazy Love. Here's the deal Tozer and Bonhoffer said it better. I'll stick with them. I usually like books that give me a kick in the pants, but this one did not engage me at all.
I agreed with much of what Chan was saying. Christians play it entirely too safe and half-heartedly worship Christ all the time. So, when I was bored to tears reading this book, I sat down and analyzed why. This point alone will require subpoints sorry folks, that's just the kind of mood I'm in at the moment.
Chan should have fired his editor and hired a new one who would tell him when he was going all over the place, or say, "Hey, Francis, could you flesh this out more. This was just starting to get interesting and you left it dangling only to repeat some of this in a further chapter. They seem true but if you really want to sell me, it would help to have some supporting data or stories or whatever. Am I being hard on Francis? Maybe but that is because I like good writing, and this is not good writing. Reading this felt like reading a blog instead of a book. I am probably spoiled by reading guys like C.
Lewis, A. Tozer, and N. That might be true, but if you are going to the work of publishing a book learn how to write well. This may just go back to subpoint A I'm still not sure, and so it gets its own subpoint. Chan's approach to his goal is confusing and muddled. I notice that several other reviewers have picked up on this as well. So he sends you to some websites I hate when books do this by the way. I'm reading a book. If you wanted me to link to something, write a blog. Take the time and describe or quote the content for crying out loud!
What happens a couple years down the road when these sites are dead links? Your book is outdated that's what. But I digress. He spends several chapters upfront trying to guilt the reader into loving God more. Then it seems that he back pedals somewhat, saying that you cannot make yourself love God more. He spends a whole chapter on the "Profile of a Lukewarm Christian" in which some of the traits are distilled from Scripture and some have no referent other than the opinions of Chan.
He makes some hard claims, but then softens them in the next chapter. He says that he is not trying to preach works and that the Holy Spirit must do the work. I believe that he is attempting to preach a gospel of grace, but his delivery stinks. He needs to build clearer, more nuanced arguments instead of making sweeping claims that he has to clarify later.
In the end, I am kind of confused about how Chan wants his readers to go about being "overwhelmed by a relentless God. He states the problem and says we need to change, but when it comes to reasons why this is the case he comes up short. And finally, it suffers from the same problems that many of these type of books do, namely it focuses on extreme examples of social justice or financial stewardship. If you aren't downsizing your house or biking to work, then you aren't an extreme enough Christian.
These types of books give lip service to less dramatic ways of serving God, but they don't get page time when it comes to examples. This last point reveals the limitations of the authors, but if you are going to make general statements for the American Church at least get a peek into the world of average small town America.
Well, I guess I was pretty hard on this book. It works for a lot of people. I actually liked some of what he had to say, but in the end I have to say that I think this book is greatly over rated. The huge success of this book, and others like it, reveals that there is a desperate need in our churches for real, life changing relationship with Jesus Christ. I commend Chan for speaking out against self-absorbed, cushy Christianity. I only wish he had done a better job. Jun 23, Kamsin Kaneko rated it it was ok. I guess this book is pretty challenging, but something about Chan's style or his theology or just his general intensity didn't quite sit right with me.
Maybe I used to think that God was calling me to "give up everything" and live only for him and give away everything to the poor, the way this book says. But now I think that I don't need to be "crazy" to love God. Maybe quiet, day to day acts of faithfulness, in a fairly ordinary kind of a life are just as important as the big, "wow, you're so a I guess this book is pretty challenging, but something about Chan's style or his theology or just his general intensity didn't quite sit right with me.
Maybe quiet, day to day acts of faithfulness, in a fairly ordinary kind of a life are just as important as the big, "wow, you're so amazing" acts which Chan seems to advocate. I don't know. I mean how many people show up for work every day and try to find the best in themselves and each other? Especially as a teacher, it seems so many teachers have little faith in, or respect for, their students. And all the simple day to day things like loving your spouse might not seem very heroic, but how many people actually do this consistently?
As for his ideas on Christians living safe, comfy lives. I don't know exactly what God has to say about that, but whilst walking round a photography exhibition with photos from some of the worlds most troubled and dangerous places, I left thinking the world is a pretty scary, unsafe kind of a place for the vast majority of people. Maybe trying to protect what with have is a natural reaction to that fact?
Anyway, Chan seems to be super popular and I keep seeing his words quoted on blogs and facebook, but for whatever reason, I'm not a fan. Jul 25, Adriane Devries rated it really liked it Shelves: spirituality , top-ten-spirituality. He compares modern American Christians to a boy asking a girl on a date, but not wanting to drive her to the restaurant or to pay for her meal.
Likewise, for many Christians the cost of truly obeying Christ is too high, calling into question whether we are fully committed to Him or not. If we are justifying our choices of entertainment and hobbies, or avoiding sacrificial service, we are reflecting a heart condition towards God that is lukewarm at best. Chan talks about the myth that we are in control of our lives, how pride plays into it, and how worship, prayer, and purposeful joy result from giving this control over to the Lord. He measures our lives by how we love.
Nov 07, Andrew Mcneill rated it liked it. It was a good book. It's short, simple and easy to read. It talked about God's love and how our response should be enthusiastic and selfless living. I have some criticisms though. I think he could have spent more time on who God is and what he has done in order to ground our response to God. He spent most of the time focusing on our response to God and that left the book slightly lop-sided. The chapter on lukewarm Christians was an important warning shot to people who live careless lives without t It was a good book.
The chapter on lukewarm Christians was an important warning shot to people who live careless lives without thinking about God. But when he says that such people are not Christians and will not enter heaven, I think he goes a step too far. Works should never be a criterion for assurance; we are saved by faith. Furthermore, casting doubt on a person's salvation will not motivate them to serve God out of love. It will motivate fearful living in the hope of maybe being good enough for God.
I'm not denying that there are many people who claim to be Christians and are not. But I am saying that we should make such people examine their faith, not their works. Get people to put their faith in Christ and to see how magnificent his love is. Then on the basis of that assurance let them live for God in full assurance of his love for them.
Get them to build on that faith by seeing that every promise of God is reliable and that living for him is more precious than living for self. Otherwise this was a good book. I enjoyed it. But there are other books which ground radical living more firmly in an understanding of God's grace. Sep 12, Le Chuck rated it it was ok. This book is like the literary equivalent of boot camp.
I don't need to read one more "Christian" book that reminds me what a failure I am and how far I fall from the mark. I just don't think God had this type of " evangelism" in mind, call me crazy. No pun intended. I also love how the author calls for us all to practically quit our jobs and follow God to the ends of the earth.
Who would be around then to heal the sick? Grow the food? Police the streets? Teach our children? I don't need o This book is like the literary equivalent of boot camp. I don't need one more "pastor" telling me that I should drop everything and go on mission trip. Perhaps God has put me through 15 years of post graduate education so that I can utilize it? Or perhaps I should stop being such a bad Christian, have more faith, quit my career, and move to some place where I am not welcome and do things I am not trained to do, all the while watching my student loans compound and multiply.
Yeah, I think God understands that we can't all be missionaries. I wish more of my peers would figure that out. In essence, this book exemplifies many of the attributes of modern evangelicism that I find to be counter productive. View all 5 comments. Mar 26, Richie rated it it was amazing. Everybody should read this book. It's an eye-opener! Jun 24, Chriskimpston rated it liked it. I struggled on whether or not to give this book 2 or 3 stars. While I liked the book, certain ideas about Christianity bothered me. The more I investigated the things with which I disagreed, I realized that it wasn't as much the actual theological ideas as much as his wording.
Therefore, since Chan's book was an articulate communication of the love of God, I went with 3. The book is pretty good, save a few things that I personally took issue with. These are just MY opinions, I'm not saying that I struggled on whether or not to give this book 2 or 3 stars. These are just MY opinions, I'm not saying that my opinion is the correct one, I'm just going to articulate where my beliefs differed from Chan's, or where I disagreed with the wording.
A couple of different instances, Chan speaks about "pleasing God," speaking of it as a priority. If God is as infinitely and relentlessly loving as Chan portrays Him, then "pleasing" him is a silly idea. A couple of wording issues within the book appeared, leading the reader to certain conclusions that might not be what Chan means to communicate. Chan, near the end of the book, goes through various examples of individuals who made incredible sacrifices for God and their faith.
Chan speaks of the necessity of "constantly putting yourself in situations of discomfort," so that God can come through and provide. While trusting in God in times of struggle is important, it seems that Chan is saying that you should never be in a position of comfort or contentment, and if you are, you are doing something wrong! Do I think this is what Chan is saying?
No, I just think that he didn't articulate his point very well. He doesn't adress that doing good acts should be based on an internal desire placed by God to do so. It needs to start in the heart, because if you act simply out of obligation, it's an empty deed. God wants you to do things for Him because you love Him, not because you are trying to buy your way into heaven.
This leads into another strange wording, when Chan says that we need to act with our "minds on the life to come. The issues that I have with the book is more with the way that it was written and worded, and less with fundamental differences in beliefs. Despite these couple examples of a few issues I had with the book, the book was a lovely communication of God's goodness and how He should be central in our lives. Again, these are just my opinions, I'm not claiming to be an authority.
God bless Francis Chan, his family, and the good I'm sure he will continue to do in the world! Jul 02, Sarah rated it it was ok. I'm always skeptical when approaching a book like this. Because I've taken classes on rhetoric and argument, and these books tend to use a lot of emotional manipulation to support the argument presented in the book.
Emotional manipulation can take the form of a bizarre, crazy story that is meant to move you At church, it usually ends in an altar call. These kinds of stories inhibit real emotion, I believe, and a story like what I just described a I'm always skeptical when approaching a book like this. These kinds of stories inhibit real emotion, I believe, and a story like what I just described appeared in the first chapter of the book.
Basically, the stories in this book mean to move and inspire you actually just confused me. In one, Chan told us about a man working with Ethiopians suffering from Mossy Foot, but he got a toothache and had to leave to take care of it. He never wanted to have to leave Ethiopia again, so he had all his teeth pulled and wore dentures for the rest of his life. I don't know, I thought it would be more beneficial to get a dentist to Ethiopia. The woman who was a prostitute and now caters to prostitutes as a Christian was an awesome story, though. Chan did say some awesome things about the general complacency of Christians, and outlined what being "obsessed" with God looks like, though.
The "Profile of the Lukewarm" was very convicting and great for examining character. He also addressed how others perceive Christians, which I always think we need reminding of. However, I wish he reminded us about Grace a little more throughout the book.
At one point, after writing a few chapters that are meant to challenge your character, he finally realizes that what he says could cause doubt, but God's grace covers us. I think he should have reminded us that the "profile of the obsessed" is not attainable without the grace and help of God. Dec 21, Simon rated it did not like it. Like some here and on other websites, I'm one of those who was done with this book by chapter 4. Having recently read The Ragamuffin Gospel by Brennan Manning, this book couldn't stand in higher contrast. Chan's tone seems faintly aggravated and impatient from the very beginning, but he makes his agenda abundantly clear once he's reached the section on "Lukewarm Christians".
No argument can convince me that this isn't, for all intents and purposes, a works gospel, and I just don't have time for Like some here and on other websites, I'm one of those who was done with this book by chapter 4. No argument can convince me that this isn't, for all intents and purposes, a works gospel, and I just don't have time for it. Not any more. There's no doubt in my mind that Chan lives and believes the way he says he does, and that he's coming from a place of true love and concern for Christians as a whole, but I believe his overall message is worrisome at best, and potentially devastating to someone who is living his or her life believing they are simply not good enough, not selfless enough, not hard-working enough, and not "Christian" enough to truly accept Christ's gift of grace.
On page 84, after an exhaustive passage describing what he calls the "Lukewarm Christian" a passage in which EVERY reader, no matter what their walk with God, is bound to see some of his or herself , he says, "As I see it, a lukewarm Christian is an oxymoron; there's no such thing. To put it plainly, churchgoers who are 'lukewarm' are not Christians.
Have you ever wondered if we're missing it? It's crazy if you think about it. The God of the universe — the Creator of nitrogen and pine needles, galaxies and. "Crazy Love" is a romantic ballad written by Northern Irish singer-songwriter Van Morrison and included on his album, Moondance. The song was.
We will not see them in heaven. It falls short of what I know of my God - who IS love, and patience, and grace - on so many levels I can't even count them. Don't believe it for a second. Feb 28, Travis rated it really liked it. I was quite surprised at some of the reviews here. Personally, I approach books that deal with God looking to listen and learn from others experiences and take what I can incorporate myself from those things I feel I can improve on - in other words, pretty much everything. Some people seem to struggle with his views on loving God. We are all different so, of course, it makes sense that everyone experiences their walk differently so I can understand the statements from both sides on how they rela I was quite surprised at some of the reviews here.
We are all different so, of course, it makes sense that everyone experiences their walk differently so I can understand the statements from both sides on how they relate and experience God's love. Naturally, a relationships growth hold many components. Of these two main ones that immediately come to mind are the physical time of a relationship and the quality of time vested in the relationship. Not much different than the relationships with people here on earth.
If I have learned anything in my own walk with God, it would be I am imperfect, and in need of love, both giving and receiving in my relationship with Jesus and I am thankful my salvation is a free gift since I could never have earned it otherwise. I am so far from what He wants me to be, I just keep getting back in the saddle, thankful for his tender mercies He renews daily. Ultimately, this book had a positive influence overall.
I am comfortable enough to take what I can agree with and not fuss over the areas I may disagree with, right or wrong. I felt the sincerity in Chan's writing and think he added an interesting view of God through his personal relationship and his growing understanding. He came across as a man seeking God, serving God and loving God. All positives in my book!
Sep 15, Kris rated it it was ok Shelves: religion-christianity. Inspirational and motivational, but rather shallow in the grand scheme of things. This felt more like a pep talk on Christian steroids, rather than a devotional or a book on some deep fundamental characteristics of Christian living. Some of his statements are actually a little questionable On page Chan writes that " While it's true for some Inspirational and motivational, but rather shallow in the grand scheme of things. While it's true for some that some sin is a result of intentionally leading a worldly life, inherently sin is a result of sinful human nature, something that we cannot get rid of no matter how much we work at it.
And while it's true that God wants to mold us to become more Christ-like, and that we should try to live by Christ's example, sin as a whole isn't a result of us forgetting to do this every day. We merely sin more because we forget. His answer is that God is all-powerful, and therefore we shouldn't question him. But that's just avoiding the issue. I understand that he's trying to put things into perspective, but this isn't really the greatest way to comfort someone who's suffering.
He also equates the "American dream" with a person who will "retire and enjoy himself," and says that it is "absolute foolishness. So stop dissing people who work hard and save up to give their kids an education because you think they should sell everything and preach to tribes in Africa.
Okay fine, Chan does explain that God works in "regular" lives too, and he doesn't claim that everybody should be missionaries. But he certainly gives a good guilt trip about not selling your house or giving more money away. And while his mushy principles can slide past the BS-o-meter relatively unscathed, his writing style leaves something to be desired. He throws in scripture without giving context. He can't sufficiently link the idea of God loving us, from his early chapters, with how people should react as a result of this, the guilt in his later chapters.
He ends his chapters rather awkwardly, without really wrapping up the point or coming to a solid conclusion. I won't go on. Although I must give Chan the benefit of the doubt, as his statements do work within the context he's set up Pretty much. This is useful for a reminder about God's characteristics, and the fact that we should react to God's love for us.
But Chan is inexact and not very profound. It almost felt like he was a motivational public speaker who happened to be Christian Aug 22, Adam Calvert rated it did not like it Shelves: christian-living. This book is one of the most confusing I've ever read about the Christian life. Chan offers a mixed view of saying the Christian life is lived out of love and not out of fear-and-guilt, but then mainly tries through fear-and-guilt to persuade his readers to live the Christian life.
Throughout the book Chan seems very confused and inconsistent in his approach to either stir up the idle Christian or convert the non-Christian. Frankly, This book is one of the most confusing I've ever read about the Christian life. For instance, he says on the one hand, we're basically all lukewarm, halfhearted, stagnant Christians p.
The inconsistency abounds so greatly throughout the book that it would be difficult to list all the examples. But as a reviewer I would caution the reader to beware of this fact and to be on the lookout for a multitude of false dichotomies either this, or that, when it very well could be both this and that, or something else entirely, etc. Now commendably, Chan recognizes a problem in the church where many Christians seem to have a very shallow Christian life.
The reason for this I think Chan presents very well in his preface: "I don't think my church's teachings were incorrect, just incomplete. My view of God was narrow and small" p. The crux of it all is why we are this way, and it is because we have an inaccurate view of God" p. To put it clearly, many Christians in today's church have shallow Christian lives because they have a narrow, small, inaccurate view of God. And I would whole-heartedly agree with this assessment.
For a particularly compelling article on this same assessment, I suggest A. However, while Chan sets up the problem clearly in the preface, the rest of the book falls very short of the solution. The title in full is, "Crazy Love: Overwhelmed by a Relentless God," with two arrows on the cover, the first one pointing down and the second pointing up.
It seems reminiscent of Paul's style of teaching - the teaching about who Christ is and what He's done Rom , Eph , Col , then flowing from that, the teaching of our response to Him Rom , Eph , Col But when you actually read this book, it is far from any of this. If the problem is a narrow, small, inaccurate view of God, one would think the solution would be to present a deep, grand, accurate view of God. But Chan seems to give little attempt at this; for he spends only three chapters on the person of God and really not very well and the next seven chapters on the person of the "Christian"?
This is puzzling. This unbalance in his book is truly unhelpful. For instance: At one point he makes abiding in Christ in 1 John somehow mean "spending ourselves" p. He writes: "What matters is that we spend ourselves. Chan makes this verse mean that we must "spend ourselves" or else we'll shrink from Christ in shame at his coming. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also.
Let what you heard from the beginning abide in you And this is the promise that he made to us - eternal life. And now little children, abide in him, so that when he appears we may have confidence and not shrink from him in shame at his coming" 1 Jn. Abide in Him, in Christ, in His righteousness! This is about abiding in the confession of the Son, not "spending" ourselves in human effort. So Chan makes this passage end up meaning the exact opposite of what it means.
There are many more, but probably the most interesting example of a passage out of context is when Chan says, "As I see it, a lukewarm Christian is an oxymoron; there's no such thing" p. And it is at this point that Chan "exegetes"? Revelation He goes to great lengths to explain why these verses are about unbelievers and not true Christians - that lukewarm Christians are not really believers at all.
Chan says, "Many people read this passage and assume Jesus is speaking to saved people. Because God loves them and disciplines them! Does God love the reprobate in a way so as to reprove and discipline them? It also seems pretty clear from the context of this passage that it's directed toward believers, who may have some professing unbelievers mixed in with them; but to say the whole group is purely unsaved I'm not sure how that interpretation can stand.
Chan again ably recognizes a problem: "In an earlier draft of this chapter, I quoted several commentators who agreed with my point of view. So what's the solution then? Compare the commentators and word studies in the original languages while examining the context of the passage to find the most likely meaning - given a historical-grammatical understanding of the text? Translation: don't worry about context, original audience, authorial intent, etc. Just read it. I wish I was joking about my "translation" but it's confirmed in his very next paragraph: "And so I've spent the past few days reading the Gospels.
Rather than examining a verse and dissecting it, I chose to peruse one gospel in each sitting" p. I have no problem with this. The survey method of study is very useful. However, here's what he says next: "Furthermore, I attempted to do so from the perspective of a twelve-year-old who knew nothing about Jesus. I wanted to rediscover what reasonable conclusions a person would come to while objectively reading the Gospels for the first time.
Let me get this straight. We're not piecing all this together to ascertain the most likely authorial intent in the Scriptures? But instead, we're going to assume the ancient document capability of a twelve-year-old um Is that the best way to interpret Scripture? Are we ever told in Scripture to take the mind of Christ off in order to come to a more "reasonable" "objective" conclusion? Want to know the Scriptures better? Ask the unbelieving twelve-year-old. This is a bad idea! Read the above referenced Scriptures and tell me if unbelievers are reasonable and objective and whether or not Christians should pretend we don't know anything about Christ when reading Scripture.
Yet this is Chan's approach. This is why Chan is constantly mixing the law to which we are not bound - Rom. This confusion is brought out in too many passages to cite, especially in the gospels and Old Testament.
But for an instance, take the story of the rich young ruler p. The point is not that he wouldn't give his money away which Chan repeatedly makes it , but that this man thought he was actually good enough by himself or could be good enough by himself to inherit eternal life Lk. Jesus plainly tells him, "No one is good except God alone" v19 ; yet he stubbornly maintains, "All these [commandments] I have kept from my youth" v. The crowds are distraught, sure. If this rich man, for whom it's easiest to keep the commandments, and who by his own admission has kept them all from his youth - if he can't inherit eternal life, then what hope is there for the rest of us?
You see, doesn't this in itself point to the very gospel of Christ? Only Christ can meet His own demands! And He did so on our behalf Heb. Truly such a great salvation is impossible with men, but with God it is possible! But Chan fails to bring this out, as he does in many other ways. He speaks about our offering our best and quotes the old covenant p. And it was He who was offered, on our behalf, under the new and lasting covenant Heb. What then comes of the Christian life?
It's clear throughout the Scriptures. We do love others Jn. We do many other things out of love, but it's because we know who God is and what He's done Gal. It is because we are free Gal. While Chan somewhat recognizes this in theory, he fails to bring it out in practice in his book. At one attempt in demonstrating? Is that the kind of crazy love God has for us? It says that we were dead in our sins Eph. The problem that causes shallow, "lukewarm," stagnant Christian living is indeed an inaccurate view of God, as Chan rightly assessed.
But this book is nowhere close to providing a solution. Even in the chapter about how much God loves us, Chan simply gives us the analogy of him loving his own kids p. Sure, it's a nice story, and I'm glad he loves his daughter. But it's natural even for unbelievers to love their own kids.
Compare that though to Ephesians 2, where God sees us naturally as children of wrath, and yet still loves us. Or the same concept in Romans 5 where even while we were rebellious sinners toward God, it was then that Christ died for us! It's natural to love our kids; it's supernatural to love rebellious objects of wrath. Yet that is what is missing from Chan's book. Because of all these things I cannot recommend the book at all for Christian living. Notice even in Paul's prayer life, he didn't pray so much that believers would "surrender" themselves or "spend" themselves.
Surely he would mention this from time to time, but it was never his emphasis. He knew that the Spirit would bring that about in their lives as they grew in their walk with the Lord. But what did he pray? He prayed that the eyes of their hearts would be opened Eph. He didn't pray that they would do "more stuff. And from that knowledge Paul would encourage and charge the Christian life.
Contrary to the impression this book gives, the Christian life is not based on who wants it more. It's based on how well we know the Lord Christ our Savior. Our eternal life is dependent on knowing Christ. Our Christian life is no different Col. The more we know Christ, the more we will do for Him because it is He who works in us Col. But how are we set-apart sanctified from the rest of the world?
Chan stated it correctly. We need an accurate view of God. And how do we go about getting that? We gain an accurate view of God by gaining an accurate understanding of God's Word. But I have to ask, does Chan know the Word of God? Chan writes, "The Israelites hid themselves whenever God passed by their camp because they were too afraid to look at Him, even the back of Him as He moved away. They were scared they would die if they saw God" p.
The Israelites? Is there a passage at all in the Old Testament that talks about God passing by the Israelite camp and the Israelites being scared they would die even if they looked at the back of Him? There's no such passage! Search the entire Scriptures! There is nothing remotely close to this claim in the Bible. It's as if someone told Chan the story of Moses seeing God's glory Ex.
So either Chan doesn't know the Scripture but he thinks he does, or he's making this up. Either option is not one from whom I'd want to learn a more accurate view of God which, if you remember, is what he says is the solution to stagnant Christian living.
If you think about it, this is crazy alright… Chan ends his book saying "one day I will have to stand before a holy God and give an account of my life" quoting Daniel Webster, p. God's Word tells us that as Christians we've already been judged in Christ and have been found righteous in Him Jn. Therefore, we are free, not to do whatever our sinful nature wants rather, we are free from that - Rom. But let us seek the true meaning of Scripture and let us seek Christ Col. Let us seek to know Him Phlp. Let us abide in HIM and in his message of grace, that we may take hold of the promise of eternal life 2 Jn.
But desire without knowledge is not good Prv. Nov 16, Jerry rated it it was amazing. An amazing look at what it truly means to live for Christ. Oct 31, Colleen Fauchelle rated it really liked it. Ugg don't you wiggle arround when a book challenges you to do better. This sure did this to me. All I can say is I am a work in progress. Am I spending enough time with the Lord?
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